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		<title>By: Bob Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ LeeKuanMajor&lt;/b&gt;:
It seems that you have a lot to say about this issue, might I suggest that you find another forum for your discussions? Perhaps a blog of your own?</description>
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It seems that you have a lot to say about this issue, might I suggest that you find another forum for your discussions? Perhaps a blog of your own?</p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE SEDONA WARRIOR WORKSHOP: 

So, you paid over $9,000.00 to go to that workshop. It had been held for, I believe, 7 years at Angel Valley. You obviously knew what you could basically expect. If you wanted to be indulged and pampered you could have used that money to go to a luxury holistic heath spa and been covered in organic mud then pampered with soothing massages. No, you didn&#039;t want that, right? You wanted to be pushed so that you could learn the difference between what you THINK you can endure and what you ACTUALLY can endure. You wanted to be able to make dramatic use of The Secret and see your daily lives transformed. Obviously, you couldn&#039;t get that from a luxury holistic health spa that caters to pampering you in all your cozy holistic indulgences. No, you paid the money and went to that workshop because YOU DIDN&#039;T WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE. You wanted to be pushed out of your &#039;comfort zone&#039; to the edge of your endurance. For this you knew you needed a Spiritual Drill Sergeant in order for you to reach your fullest potential and that&#039;s what you got. You must admit it takes a lot of guts for James Arthur Ray to create such a workshop. It&#039;s not as safe as a holistic &#039;pamper yourself&#039; spa. Such a workshop is only for those who are serious about permanently changing their lives. The liability waiver made it clear enough that you might indeed be injured at that workshop. You might even die, yet you chose to PROMISE IN WRITING that you would take full responsibility for your actions when you attended that workshop and not hold James Arthur Ray or ANY of the JRI staff liable should you suffer injury and if you died your relatives could not sue over the matter. Ray should have had the attitude of a Marine Corps drill sergeant. He was nicer than that, right? Still, show me a Marine Corps drill sergeant who is always sweet and nice and I&#039;ll show you...a worthless drill sergeant.

True warriors are honorable. They keep to the agreements they make and DON&#039;T NEED a written contract to honor their agreements. You &#039;pity me&#039; people who went to that workshop with the intent of breaking your promise if anything went wrong are a disgrace. You should not have been there. Supposed “warriors” who break their promises are actually losers pretending to be warriors. A drill sergeant is indeed going to shock you into a state of mind where you access your dormant potential. Once you sign the military agreement it&#039;s too late to change your mind about the matter. Sounds to me like you crybabies would make excellent military basic training boot camp washouts. You say you were pressured by Mr Ray to stay in the sweat lodge. What did you expect? For him to pressure you not to go in and build your endurance? GROW UP and take responsibility for your actions and your lives, people! Until you can say the Native American adage “It&#039;s a good day to die” with casual optimism and REALLY MEAN IT you will never amount to much on the path of Universal Knowledge. You should have gotten your lives in order, before you went, and been fully prepared to die at that workshop. There is no guarantee that you would not have died before you even arrived there! Next time spend your money on a self-indulgent holistic health spa for New Age weaklings that will pamper you with indulgent, holistic luxury. You don&#039;t belong at a workshop for the strong and the honorable.

I suggest you consider this: Angel Valley destroyed exhibit &#039;A&#039; in the James Arthur Ray manslaughter case before it went to trial because...when they took the sweat lodge apart they found that the vinyl tarps covering the breathable material were somewhat melted. God forbid you people who went to the workshop would find that out! It would mean you suffered injury because of the fumes that came from those melting vinyl tarps. Angel Valley had no business constructing a sweat lodge and covering it with non-breathable vinyl tarps. THAT&#039;S CRAZY!!! Study into sweat lodge construction and you will indeed find Native Americans agree that a sweat lodge MUST be covered with a breathable material. So, you didn&#039;t have enough air in the sweat lodge, eh? WHO THE HELL BUILT THAT DEATH TRAP COVERED WITH NON-BREATHABLE VINYL MATERIAL? Who assured James Arthur Ray that the sweat lodge was safe and didn&#039;t even bother to supply thermometers to make certain it didn&#039;t get too hot inside the structure,eh? These are the questions you really need to be asking...”warriors”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1805"><p>TO THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE SEDONA WARRIOR WORKSHOP: </p>
<p>So, you paid over $9,000.00 to go to that workshop. It had been held for, I believe, 7 years at Angel Valley. You obviously knew what you could basically expect. If you wanted to be indulged and pampered you could have used that money to go to a luxury holistic heath spa and been covered in organic mud then pampered with soothing massages. No, you didn&#8217;t want that, right? You wanted to be pushed so that you could learn the difference between what you THINK you can endure and what you ACTUALLY can endure. You wanted to be able to make dramatic use of The Secret and see your daily lives transformed. Obviously, you couldn&#8217;t get that from a luxury holistic health spa that caters to pampering you in all your cozy holistic indulgences. No, you paid the money and went to that workshop because YOU DIDN&#8217;T WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE. You wanted to be pushed out of your &#8216;comfort zone&#8217; to the edge of your endurance. For this you knew you needed a Spiritual Drill Sergeant in order for you to reach your fullest potential and that&#8217;s what you got. You must admit it takes a lot of guts for James Arthur Ray to create such a workshop. It&#8217;s not as safe as a holistic &#8216;pamper yourself&#8217; spa. Such a workshop is only for those who are serious about permanently changing their lives. The liability waiver made it clear enough that you might indeed be injured at that workshop. You might even die, yet you chose to PROMISE IN WRITING that you would take full responsibility for your actions when you attended that workshop and not hold James Arthur Ray or ANY of the JRI staff liable should you suffer injury and if you died your relatives could not sue over the matter. Ray should have had the attitude of a Marine Corps drill sergeant. He was nicer than that, right? Still, show me a Marine Corps drill sergeant who is always sweet and nice and I&#8217;ll show you&#8230;a worthless drill sergeant.</p>
<p>True warriors are honorable. They keep to the agreements they make and DON&#8217;T NEED a written contract to honor their agreements. You &#8216;pity me&#8217; people who went to that workshop with the intent of breaking your promise if anything went wrong are a disgrace. You should not have been there. Supposed “warriors” who break their promises are actually losers pretending to be warriors. A drill sergeant is indeed going to shock you into a state of mind where you access your dormant potential. Once you sign the military agreement it&#8217;s too late to change your mind about the matter. Sounds to me like you crybabies would make excellent military basic training boot camp washouts. You say you were pressured by Mr Ray to stay in the sweat lodge. What did you expect? For him to pressure you not to go in and build your endurance? GROW UP and take responsibility for your actions and your lives, people! Until you can say the Native American adage “It&#8217;s a good day to die” with casual optimism and REALLY MEAN IT you will never amount to much on the path of Universal Knowledge. You should have gotten your lives in order, before you went, and been fully prepared to die at that workshop. There is no guarantee that you would not have died before you even arrived there! Next time spend your money on a self-indulgent holistic health spa for New Age weaklings that will pamper you with indulgent, holistic luxury. You don&#8217;t belong at a workshop for the strong and the honorable.</p>
<p>I suggest you consider this: Angel Valley destroyed exhibit &#8216;A&#8217; in the James Arthur Ray manslaughter case before it went to trial because&#8230;when they took the sweat lodge apart they found that the vinyl tarps covering the breathable material were somewhat melted. God forbid you people who went to the workshop would find that out! It would mean you suffered injury because of the fumes that came from those melting vinyl tarps. Angel Valley had no business constructing a sweat lodge and covering it with non-breathable vinyl tarps. THAT&#8217;S CRAZY!!! Study into sweat lodge construction and you will indeed find Native Americans agree that a sweat lodge MUST be covered with a breathable material. So, you didn&#8217;t have enough air in the sweat lodge, eh? WHO THE HELL BUILT THAT DEATH TRAP COVERED WITH NON-BREATHABLE VINYL MATERIAL? Who assured James Arthur Ray that the sweat lodge was safe and didn&#8217;t even bother to supply thermometers to make certain it didn&#8217;t get too hot inside the structure,eh? These are the questions you really need to be asking&#8230;”warriors”</p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Arthur Ray Sweat Lodge Trial Vacated -- No New Date Set: 

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/07/james_arthur_ray_sweat_lodge_t.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1787"><p>James Arthur Ray Sweat Lodge Trial Vacated &#8212; No New Date Set: </p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my travels on the Internet, about the Sedona matter, I know how Native Americans would have reacted if a Native American went to that workshop and stayed in the sweat lodge until he had to be hospitalized. The Native Americans would hold THAT PARTICULAR Native American fully responsible for his actions. They would have told THAT PARTICULAR Native American that he should have known better than to stay in a sweat lodge until he needed to be hospitalized. They would say that he got what he deserved for being an idiot! Yes indeed. That&#039;s how Native Americans would have reacted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1763"><p>From my travels on the Internet, about the Sedona matter, I know how Native Americans would have reacted if a Native American went to that workshop and stayed in the sweat lodge until he had to be hospitalized. The Native Americans would hold THAT PARTICULAR Native American fully responsible for his actions. They would have told THAT PARTICULAR Native American that he should have known better than to stay in a sweat lodge until he needed to be hospitalized. They would say that he got what he deserved for being an idiot! Yes indeed. That&#8217;s how Native Americans would have reacted.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the assessment it is indeed the Law of Attraction that is truly on trial here. People ask things like, &#039;Why did James Arthur Ray attract this to himself?&#039; The real question is why did those PARTICULAR PARTICIPANTS attract this to THEMSELVES? Why did they refuse to listen to their bodies? They all knew they signed a liability waiver promising to take full responsibility for their actions at the workshop. They must have all heard that one man screaming at the top of his lungs, “I DON&#039;T WANT TO DIE! I DON&#039;T WANT TO DIE!!! There is NO EXCUSE for those people going back into the sweat lodge after a 10-15 minute round if they could not handle it. If your body is dying it will indeed let you know in unmistakable ways. If you refuse to listen to your body screaming that it is dying and you go back into a sweat lodge, after signing a liability waiver, you have no one else to blame but yourself! It is irrelevant who may be encouraging you to go back into the sweat lodge. It is YOUR LIFE and YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to protect YOURSELF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1717"><p>I agree with the assessment it is indeed the Law of Attraction that is truly on trial here. People ask things like, &#8216;Why did James Arthur Ray attract this to himself?&#8217; The real question is why did those PARTICULAR PARTICIPANTS attract this to THEMSELVES? Why did they refuse to listen to their bodies? They all knew they signed a liability waiver promising to take full responsibility for their actions at the workshop. They must have all heard that one man screaming at the top of his lungs, “I DON&#8217;T WANT TO DIE! I DON&#8217;T WANT TO DIE!!! There is NO EXCUSE for those people going back into the sweat lodge after a 10-15 minute round if they could not handle it. If your body is dying it will indeed let you know in unmistakable ways. If you refuse to listen to your body screaming that it is dying and you go back into a sweat lodge, after signing a liability waiver, you have no one else to blame but yourself! It is irrelevant who may be encouraging you to go back into the sweat lodge. It is YOUR LIFE and YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to protect YOURSELF!</p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 05:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is MY OPINION that James Arthur Ray was ignorant as to just how dangerous a sweat lodge holding about 60 could be. Angel Valley must have assured Mr Ray that such a sweat lodge would be no problem to build and it would be safe or else James Arthur Ray would not have paid them to build it. Mr Ray blindly trusted Angel Valley to be experts in these matters. This is where James Arthur Ray made his big mistake. Angel Valley should have told Mr Ray that they would NEVER build such a sweat lodge because it was extremely dangerous to do so. They should have told Mr Ray that they also would not allow ANYONE to build such a dangerous sweat lodge on THEIR PROPERTY, for liability reasons. Yes, Mr Ray was indeed ignorant to blindly trust Angel Valley when they told him they could safely build a sweat lodge that can hold 60 people. It was indeed blind ignorant trust in Angel Valley that led to the tragedy in Sedona&#039;s Angel Valley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1713"><p>It is MY OPINION that James Arthur Ray was ignorant as to just how dangerous a sweat lodge holding about 60 could be. Angel Valley must have assured Mr Ray that such a sweat lodge would be no problem to build and it would be safe or else James Arthur Ray would not have paid them to build it. Mr Ray blindly trusted Angel Valley to be experts in these matters. This is where James Arthur Ray made his big mistake. Angel Valley should have told Mr Ray that they would NEVER build such a sweat lodge because it was extremely dangerous to do so. They should have told Mr Ray that they also would not allow ANYONE to build such a dangerous sweat lodge on THEIR PROPERTY, for liability reasons. Yes, Mr Ray was indeed ignorant to blindly trust Angel Valley when they told him they could safely build a sweat lodge that can hold 60 people. It was indeed blind ignorant trust in Angel Valley that led to the tragedy in Sedona&#8217;s Angel Valley</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ LeeKuanMajor&lt;/b&gt;:
Did you expect fairness from a network news show? I sure didn&#039;t. Fair doesn&#039;t sell. Scandal does.</description>
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Did you expect fairness from a network news show? I sure didn&#8217;t. Fair doesn&#8217;t sell. Scandal does.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Nick White Swan&lt;/b&gt;:
You&#039;ve hit on some great points. But in the end I believe that it is the seeker&#039;s responsibility to find the truth out there. History is full of people who blindly follow charismatic leaders into trouble! Sure, we can loath James Ray and others like him, but does that solve the problem?</description>
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You&#8217;ve hit on some great points. But in the end I believe that it is the seeker&#8217;s responsibility to find the truth out there. History is full of people who blindly follow charismatic leaders into trouble! Sure, we can loath James Ray and others like him, but does that solve the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: LeeKuanMajor</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeKuanMajor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ABC program Mind Games, about James Arthur Ray, completely missed the MOST IMPORTANT aspects of this James Arthur Ray Sedona case and that is:

The Construction of the Sweat Lodge

They never even mentioned it!

So, what if they interviewed experts in the construction of sweat lodges and asked them about the construction of the sweat lodge at the Sedona Warrior Workshop? What if the experts TRUTHFULLY told ABC that sweat lodges are supposed to be covered with breathable material. What if the experts had said that a sweat lodge covered in waterproof tarps, like the one in Sedona, could indeed be dangerous enough to cause serious injury or even DEATH!!!

Then ABC would have logically asked: “Who built that sweat lodge?” From then on you would find out who the real culprits in this matter actually are and that is: Angel Valley!

Angel Valley built a dangerously unsafe sweat lodge

and if that wasn&#039;t bad enough

Before the James Arthur Ray trial began Angel Valley DESTROYED EXHIBIT &#039;A&#039; IN THE CASE. Obviously, Angel Valley is doing it&#039;s best to destroy all evidence that would implicate them in this matter.

If James Arthur Ray was caught destroying that sweat lodge before his trial we wouldn&#039;t have heard the end of it! The media would have been all over him and he would probably still be in jail for attempting to destroy exhibit &#039;A&#039; in the manslaughter case.

How would you have felt if ABC investigated this MOST IMPORTANT aspect to the James Arthur Ray Sedona tragedy?

Probably very different indeed!

Obviously, the ABC Mind Games program is biased. It was made to serve a hidden agenda. That&#039;s why they never bothered to investigate into the construction of the sweat lodge

Chances are NOT A SINGLE NATIVE AMERICAN who conducts sweat lodge ceremonies would publicly state that a sweat lodge covered with non-breathable, waterproof tarps was safe. NOT SO MUCH AS ONE NATIVE AMERICAN SWEAT LODGE LEADER IN THE WHOLE BLOODY WORLD!!!

ABC was obviously determined that the whole world view James Arthur Ray as guilty NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH MAY BE and they &#039;back-engineered&#039; the program to serve this hidden agenda

SHAME ON YOU, ABC!!!

YOU ARE GUILTY AS HELL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span id="co_1679"><p>The ABC program Mind Games, about James Arthur Ray, completely missed the MOST IMPORTANT aspects of this James Arthur Ray Sedona case and that is:</p>
<p>The Construction of the Sweat Lodge</p>
<p>They never even mentioned it!</p>
<p>So, what if they interviewed experts in the construction of sweat lodges and asked them about the construction of the sweat lodge at the Sedona Warrior Workshop? What if the experts TRUTHFULLY told ABC that sweat lodges are supposed to be covered with breathable material. What if the experts had said that a sweat lodge covered in waterproof tarps, like the one in Sedona, could indeed be dangerous enough to cause serious injury or even DEATH!!!</p>
<p>Then ABC would have logically asked: “Who built that sweat lodge?” From then on you would find out who the real culprits in this matter actually are and that is: Angel Valley!</p>
<p>Angel Valley built a dangerously unsafe sweat lodge</p>
<p>and if that wasn&#8217;t bad enough</p>
<p>Before the James Arthur Ray trial began Angel Valley DESTROYED EXHIBIT &#8216;A&#8217; IN THE CASE. Obviously, Angel Valley is doing it&#8217;s best to destroy all evidence that would implicate them in this matter.</p>
<p>If James Arthur Ray was caught destroying that sweat lodge before his trial we wouldn&#8217;t have heard the end of it! The media would have been all over him and he would probably still be in jail for attempting to destroy exhibit &#8216;A&#8217; in the manslaughter case.</p>
<p>How would you have felt if ABC investigated this MOST IMPORTANT aspect to the James Arthur Ray Sedona tragedy?</p>
<p>Probably very different indeed!</p>
<p>Obviously, the ABC Mind Games program is biased. It was made to serve a hidden agenda. That&#8217;s why they never bothered to investigate into the construction of the sweat lodge</p>
<p>Chances are NOT A SINGLE NATIVE AMERICAN who conducts sweat lodge ceremonies would publicly state that a sweat lodge covered with non-breathable, waterproof tarps was safe. NOT SO MUCH AS ONE NATIVE AMERICAN SWEAT LODGE LEADER IN THE WHOLE BLOODY WORLD!!!</p>
<p>ABC was obviously determined that the whole world view James Arthur Ray as guilty NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH MAY BE and they &#8216;back-engineered&#8217; the program to serve this hidden agenda</p>
<p>SHAME ON YOU, ABC!!!</p>
<p>YOU ARE GUILTY AS HELL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Vice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!</description>
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